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From: Brian Redman (bigxc@firefly.prairienet.org)
Date: Sun Jan 01 1995 - 07:44:50 PST
Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3 Num. 33
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("Quid coniuratio est?")
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EUSTACE MULLINS -- OCTOBER 28, 1994
Tom Valentine's guest on *Radio Free America* (Shortwave, 5.065
MHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on October 28, 1994 was controversial
author Eustace Mullins. Note that views expressed in the
following do not necessarily reflect my own views or those of
Conspiracy Nation.
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TOM VALENTINE:
Hello, everybody. Welcome back to *Radio Free America*.
It is "fractal Friday", but in this hour it's not really going to
be "fractal". It's going to be very, very important.
Now, before we start, with my guest, we need to clarify a term --
'cause I use it as a term of endearment, but a lot of people may
not understand how to take it. And we're not gonna be like those
in the "NewSpeak" game, or the Orwellian types. We're going to
deal with language so that we understand.
There are people, like myself, who are called "health nuts". A
"health nut" is a person who advocates natural health things. So
that's... The "nut" is a term of endearment now. They were called
"health nuts" by the establishment, in a derogatory way, for
many, many years. But now, a lot of us are *proud* to take the
term "health nuts".
Well there are also "conspiracy nuts". And they're identical to
"health nuts": they have been put down with that term for a long
time. They're a person who has keen insights to the ongoing
problems of the world; and to the news of the world, he "reads
between the lines" and he sees that there are people out there
with an agenda, powerful people with an agenda. And he begins to
believe it and study it, and he gets to be called, by the
establishment (which is part of the agenda problem) a "conspiracy
nut".
Well, *many* of us are "conspiracy nuts". And I'm *proud* to be a
"conspiracy nut".
You're not a "conspiracy nut" worth a darn, unless you have read
the several books by my guest: *The New World Order*, *Secrets of
the Federal Reserve*, *Murder by Injection*, *The Rape of
Justice*, and now, the latest, and evidently one of your most
acclaimed books, Eustace Mullins, *Education for Slavery*.
Welcome to *Radio Free America*.
EUSTACE MULLINS:
Thank you, Tom! It's certainly good to be on your show.
VALENTINE:
It's good to have you back! We haven't talked in a while.
MULLINS:
No we haven't. I've been on the road quite a bit.
VALENTINE:
Well you've got a new book since the last time we talked.
MULLINS:
Yes.
VALENTINE:
What is this, *Education*... You've taken the whole educational
system to task, have you?
MULLINS:
More than that. I have traced all of the present educational
programs right back, 5,000 years, to the ancient cult of Baal,
which Jesus preached against during his ministry on earth.
VALENTINE:
That's fascinating. That *is* fascinating, and there's a lot of
us who would believe that. Because that cult has *never* gone
away.
MULLINS:
It has never gone away. It's more prevalent today, I think, than
it was in Jesus' time. And, of course, this *really* gets
conspiratorial because, when your education system has been
subverted by a Satanic cult -- you don't get much more
conspiratorial than that.
VALENTINE:
I would say so.
How do we make the links? I mean, without givin' away the whole
book, what are the major links going back?
MULLINS:
The links. The cult of Baal went underground after Jesus'
ministry, and it re-appeared as Humanism. Then it re-appeared as
the Renaissance, the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution
-- all of these are manifestations of this ancient cult. And
actually, it came to power, over the educational system in this
country, through Humanism.
VALENTINE:
I have no doubt about that at all: I have followed humanist... I
*was* one. I was a brainwashed humanist for a very big part of my
younger life!
MULLINS:
My goodness.
VALENTINE:
Oh yeah! You know, you go to college in America, if you're not
too smart you're gonna be caught up in it. In fact, I mentioned
it in the first hour. I was given the Franz Boaz, Ashley
Montague, Russell What's-his-name...
MULLINS:
Bertrand Russell, yeah.
VALENTINE:
Bertrand Russell and Aldous Huxley and all of that stuff -- and I
just ate it up! Because I didn't know any better.
MULLINS:
Well they were the most revered people of the academic world at
that time!
VALENTINE:
Yes they were, in the '50s.
And so, these people, though, were preaching something that...
How would you phrase it? What is it that Humanism does that isn't
good for people? That is Satanic, that is diabolical?
MULLINS:
It's anti-God. It places man above God! And that's a fundamental
error. And I think Humanism is the origin of "feel good"
liberalism. They want people to feel good about themselves; they
want 'em to have more self-esteem. Well you have self-esteem by
having character! By having integrity. By producing something of
value to the world.
VALENTINE:
Ah, but since they can't do that, they preach the self-esteem
*without* the character, and *without* the value.
MULLINS:
They give you the self-esteem without any values on your part.
And of course that also gives 'em tremendous *control* over you,
because once you've been told that you have self-esteem then you
are at the mercy of people who are manipulating you. You become a
puppet.
VALENTINE:
I can certainly sense that and feel that.
All right! Ladies and gentlemen, my guest is author Eustace
Mullins. He's been around for a long, long time. And he and I are
just gonna have a little conversation about a *lot* of things
that have been going on for many years.
You may join us: 1-800-878-8255. You may call any time you feel.
Eustace and I can handle it.
I'm Tom Valentine, this is *Radio Free America*.
[...break...]
All right, we are back, live. And like I said, my guest is
Eustace Mullins. [...Gives info on upcoming appearances by Mr.
Mullins...]
Now. Your books -- you got a lot of them. Three of your books are
available from Liberty Library: *The New World Order*, *Secrets
of the Federal Reserve*, and *Murder by Injection*. And they're
outstanding. In fact, *Secrets of the Federal Reserve* was the
one that exposed "the Fed" for what it really is.
MULLINS:
Yeah. It was the first book to reveal the secret Jekyll Island
conference at which the billionaires took over the money and
credit of the people of the United States for their own sinister
purposes.
VALENTINE:
Yes. And when you did that, that was extremely controversial and
it's been shut down! I mean, [it's] amazing how the media shut
that fact down.
MULLINS:
Oh, that's true. They have done that for years. And in fact, you
know, when the Simon and Schuster put out a rip-off of my book
called *Secrets of the Temple: The Federal Reserve*, they even
stole my title. And they sold 300,000 of 'em. And *Forbes*
magazine reviewed it and said, "This book has no secrets."
VALENTINE:
Well that's true. [laughs] There ya go.
MULLINS:
It was a total rip-off! [laughs]
VALENTINE:
Well, but did they talk about Jekyll Island in that one?
MULLINS:
No indeed. He didn't mention Jekyll Island at all. In fact,
Greider, William Greider, who was a Washington editor of *Rolling
Stone*, an establishment journalist, actually wrote this book.
And he "pooh-poohed" any conspiratorial notion that there had
ever been a meeting at all.
VALENTINE:
You're kidding.
MULLINS:
No.
VALENTINE:
Oh my... Right down the memory hole!
MULLINS:
Oh definitely. He absolutely said, "It never happened."
VALENTINE:
Well, that's the purpose of that book: to counter what you have
done for so many years.
All right. What I wanna do... First of all, I gotta tell
everybody [...Gives info on how to order books...]
MULLINS:
I'm at PO Box 1105, Stanton, Virginia 24401 [address to write to
Mr. Mullins].
[...]
VALENTINE:
All right, now, Eustace, let's get started. You're not a young
guy, neither am I. But how did you get started in this in the
first place?
MULLINS:
Well I met a political prisoner, a man who had been imprisoned
because he stood up for the Constitution of the United States: a
poet named Ezra Pound. And he had been incarcerated, without
trial, in St. Elizabeth's Hospital in Washington, D.C. And I was
going to art school in Washington, and one of my professors said,
"I want you to go out and meet Ezra Pound."
So I went out there. Ezra Pound said, "Go on to the Library of
Congress and find out what you can about the Federal Reserve
System." So I did it. And now, almost 50 years later, I'm still
at it.
[...to be continued...]
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