("Quid coniuratio est?")
TERRY REED / JOHN CUMMINGS INTERVIEW
Good day. Welcome, America. Tom Donahue program. Thanks so much
for joining us.
Two special guests -- they were with us the first hour as well --
the co-authors of Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA (How
the Presidency was co-opted by the Central Intelligence Agency).
We're gonna start off with Terry Reed, where we left off. And
Terry, we left off with the Bush family, "The Bush crime family",
as I call them, involved in the drug trade.
We know, through Bo Gritz and through many -- the Christic
Institute and Lyndon LaRouche, among other authors and writers
and journalists -- that we, 90 percent of the heroin trade came
through, came from Burma, and that the CIA was found to be
involved with General Koonsall(sp?). As a matter of fact, General
Koonsall's greatest customer was the CIA. And he wanted [to get]
out of the drug trade, but he just wanted some financial
assistance from the international community.
And George Bush's cohorts, Theodore Shackley, Richard Armitage,
were involved heavily. And Bush, I guess, acted like he didn't
know anything. But you're saying that his sons were involved in
cocaine peddling of some sort.
Well I'm saying, and I don't want to sound like a conspiracist,
Tom, because that's where I really get cross-wired: with a lot of
people that allege to know more than they claim they know.
- Um-hmm [understands].
- Let's go back to Thailand for a second. I can speak firsthand. I
was in Air Force Intelligence. We had an intelligence courier
service code-named, its code-name was "Scatback". And Scatback
was a series of Lear jets that flew classified material base to
base, just for intelligence purposes. And in 1970, Scatback was
"busted" as they say: All the pilots were put on house arrest. It
was found that they'd been couriering, in addition to classified
material, cocaine... er, heroin. One of their landing points was,
in fact, the M.T.(?), in Laos -- the headquarters of Air
So that's firsthand. Now this transition to the Bush family: I
can say this: John [Cummings] and I are deeply involved right now
into the ongoing investigation of the people that were
assassinated the very same day that Barry [Seal] was killed. In
fact, within 2 hours of his death, 4 other people were killed
worldwide. We're interviewing witnesses right now. We're pulling
Zapata Petroleum records. And it's my premise, based upon talking
to some other people that I can't mention over the radio here,
that Seal, that the Zapata Petroleum, was hauling a lot more than
petroleum. Certainly, you build a network of pipelines and
tankers, and what better way to trans-ship cocaine than to have
it submersed in crude oil.
- Especially a company that was set up by, or at least we're told
was set up by, George Bush in "pulling himself up from his
- Yeah. Interesting "bootstraps".
- How was that set up? What do you know about Zapata Oil?
- Well, just from their records that have disappeared. As you
probably know, the material that was all supposed to be part of
the SEC [Securities Exchange Commission] public record when Bush
announced his -- I think it was actually shortly after his
pending place on the ticket, to run for vice-President. That
material was all shredded, allegedly by "accident". But we have
people in Houston, right now, that are piecing together what
records that can be found. We're finding a very, very interesting
linkage to Mexico and organized crime out of Mexico. Zapata
[Petroleum] was given preferential treatment for drilling
rights at a time when they were basically, were banned from doing
so -- uh, I mean American corporations were. Zapata sold an oil
rig to the ex-President of Mexico. There was just strong, strong
connection there. And we're getting into, John and I are making
the connection [in] the next book, into what, why Kiki Camarena
-- if you remember the DEA agent that was tortured to death? In
- Um-hmm [affirmative]. Right.
- Yeah, we've got a Mexican source that's telling us lots of
interesting material that I really can't go into in this
conversation, but we'll be happy to, once we get it fully
organized and hopefully get our manuscript out there; we would
love to talk about it.
- O.K. Let's talk about the Bush boys, the sons. And we were just
starting to touch on that and we were out of time, in the first
- Well all I know is what Seal... At this point, all I know is what
Seal told me: that there were surveillance videos and that he'd
made his, you know, in intelligence parlance and police language
you have what is called your "safe kit" -- material stashed
somewhere to get you through an ordeal. To basically make you, as
Seal said, "invinceible". Obviously, that didn't work for him.
But I do believe that with the combination of the audio tapes,
that John Cummings and I presently have, a strong case can be
made that they wanted Seal dead. In fact, the working title of
this book is Fatal Knowledge. You can see from that title
selection that the knowledge Seal was amassing, to keep him safe,
ultimately led to his demise.
[...to be continued...]
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