("Quid coniuratio est?")
SHERMAN SKOLNICK INTERVIEW
Sherman Skolnick was interviewed on Radio Free America
(Shortwave, 5.810 mHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on September 2, 1994.
Mr. Skolnick is a veteran investigative reporter from Chicago and
founder of the "Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts" in
that city. Following is my transcription of that interview.
Host/Interviewer is Tom Valentine.
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- Yes. We don't want to forget that one. We want the listeners to
all get that, those 3 letters, 4 letters, that's a 4 letter word:
- Right. The Bank of Credit and Commerce International. That's a
secret. By the way, I don't want to digress, but we did a program
recently on television for an hour, pointing out that BCCI,
contrary to what the press says, has not gone under! They are
operating under another name and they're buying out banks in
Chicago through their holding company, Pinnacle Bank Group, which
is tied in with Jimmy Carter's people which is where that BCCI
started from in the beginning! Bert Lance and those people.
And by the way, one of the reasons for what we believe is the
murder of Vincent Foster, jr., is that he and his law partner,
Hillary Rodham Clinton, arranged secretly for BCCI to have a
great presence in the United States. And evidently, Danny
Casolaro was on to that.
But getting back to Elliott Richardson's additional rebuttal to
Bua's grand jury report -- He said there's a secret unit in the
Justice Department, and as a front, they're operating
through 100 commercial companies, as a front. But their main
business is to go around murdering witnesses!
Now that is very interesting...
- It is, because you said that many years ago.
- Yeah! And we brought a federal lawsuit against Bua, and his
colleagues in the courthouse bottled us up and wouldn't allow any
hearing. But we contended that there were, at that time, which is
the fall of '93, of '92, that there were 40, over 40 grand jury
So I mean, what kind of a report could he [Bua] issue to the
grand jury if over 40 witnesses were murdered! I mean, the thing
is... It's outrageous! And...
- Well it was a farce!
- Right! And we made it all a matter of record.
Now what's interesting now is, in Chicago, the papers here have
been covering an embezzlement scandal. The federally funded
Chicago Housing Authority [CHA], which builds buildings for poor
people to live in, you know?
- The famous Robert Taylor Homes, Cabrini Green, and so forth.
- Right! Their pension fund, the CHA pension fund, has been
embezzled out of $12 million. That's been contended day after day
in the Tribune and the Sun-Times and so on.
What's interesting is, we found out that there's a grand jury in
another part of the country looking into a tremendous scam
involving hundreds of millions of dollars. And what do ya know??
The pension fund scam here, of the Chicago Housing Authority, is
a part of it. And this other grand jury is hearing testimony that
Nicholas J. Bua is involved.
- Huh! O.K. My guest is Sherman Skolnick. And you just heard it:
right now, somewhere in the U.S., is a grand jury, and our judge
We shall return. I'm Tom Valentine. This is Radio Free America.
All right. Sherman Skolnick of the Committee to Clean Up the
Courts in Chicago is my guest. And Sherman, tell everyone (before
we get back to this very exciting news item about Judge Bua being
somehow part of this pension fund rip-off, or at least being
alleged that at a grand jury hearing), um, tell us about your
telephone message service first. 'Cause a lot of people want to
hear what you've got to say, and you change those messages
several times a week.
- Right. We have a recorded, 5 minute message, which is a regular
phone call -- it's not an expensive call. You can call it at
night, for example, when it's cheaper. And it's 731-1100. And
that's Chicago, which is area code 312. 731-1100, in Chicago.
- Right. You call up Chicago, area 312, 731-1100, any time of day,
around the clock, and you can listen to a recorded message. How
long is it usually, Sherman?
- Five minutes, and we change it 3 times a week. We've got
listeners [laughs] all the way from Hawaii to Maine to Puerto
Rico to Canada. It's a regular phone call, and we've been running
- Now you coulda run this as a 900 number years ago and probably
done all right. But you've kept it cheap for the folks.
- Right. It's a regular... It's just a regular long-distance call.
- Very good.
- Now our current message is about Bua. But now here's the point!
In this pension fund case, people far away are being arrested,
with international connections. For example, there's a story in
the Tribune, August 26th, that mentions that there was a
character arrested in Fort Lauderdale [CN -- apparently named Mr.
Polichemi], who's got a $5 million home there, with banking
connections all over the world, including in Luxembourg. And that
he is reportedly involved in this pension fund rip-off in
But, what the Tribune and the rest of 'em do not mention is
that there's a grand jury outside of Chicago which is looking
into this and that apparently, Mr. Polichemi reportedly is in
some way connected with Bua! -- the former federal district judge
who went on to be the special counsel to the Inslaw grand jury.
Other things that the out-of-town grand jury reportedly is
hearing is that Bua originally was installed on the federal bench
through a shadowy character in California named George K. Pender
-- that's P-e-n-d-e-r.
- That's a Reagan "Kitchen Cabinet" guy!
- Right. And Pender, according to documents that we [CCCC] have,
ran a company... He was the president, chairman, and director of
a company in Santa Monica, California, named First
Intercontinental Development Corp. And according to documents
from that company, here are the ones that were directors of
Pender's company. (And Pender is the one that's reportedly been
in with Bua.)
A director was Robert A. Maheu(sp?) [pronounced MAY-hoo], former
chief executive for Howard Hughes' operations. And Maheu has been
accused, in various books, as being a long-time CIA operative,
reportedly supervising assassins -- such as Chicago gangsters.
- Yes, that's been reported in many books.
- Another senior vice-president, director, and chairman of the
investment committee of that company, was Robert Booth
Nickols(sp?) [pronounced NIK-kuls], who was Riconosciuto's former
- Yeah! And a major Inslaw player and possibly the man behind the
killing of Casolaro!
- Right. And Robert Booth Nickols uh, we confronted his former
business partner, Riconosciuto, who went straight into orbit when
he realized that we found out that Nickols apparently was
implicated in the New York World Trade Center bombing.
- Who went through the roof? Mike Riconosciuto?
- Oh-oh. Must have touched a nerve, huh?!
- We spent four-and-a-half months interviewing him and he usually
kept his cool. But when we confronted him about Nickols being
possibly involved... Well, we reached him on the phone,
actually, after that World Trade Center bombing, and he shouted
at us that we must get off that case!
So we think there's a connection there.
[...to be continued...]
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