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Conspiracy Nation. It merely reports what was said elsewhere.]
SHERMAN SKOLNICK INTERVIEW -- THE JOLIET CONNECTION
Sherman Skolnick was interviewed on Radio Free America
(Shortwave, 5.065 MHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on October 20, 1994.
Mr. Skolnick is a veteran investigative reporter from Chicago and
founder of the "Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts" in
that city. Following is my transcription of that interview.
Host/Interviewer is Tom Valentine.
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK [continues]:
And one of those that was involved in the overall thing was this
John E. Gearham who is a close crony -- from Park Ridge (which is
a northwest suburb of Chicago) -- a close crony of first lady
Hillary. And it is now... His confession, that relates to this,
which I took down in the presence of a witness, is now in the
federal court record here in Chicago. (None of the newspapers
refer to it.) And he said that he is gonna be made a "fall guy"
[i.e., offered up as a sacrifice; a scapegoat for others' guilt]
for this overall Clinton administration group of scandals. (The
only one [newspaper] that went into it big was, by the way, a
major German paper in Hamburg, the Hamburg Obleiden(?). I mean,
where is the mass media!?)
That's a good question.
As you can see, John, this is a bi-partisan corruption.
- Yes, they're both hooked together, Tom. I agree with you. And I
think that's why the media is afraid of it, 'cause it somehow
drags Bush into it, along with Clinton.
And Mr. Skolnick, there: I think he's just about ready, if I was
to play my cards right, to "go for the jugular" on Clinton before
they all get away at the same time, Mr. Skolnick.
- We're tryin'. And I thank you for the call, John.
- Before we run out of time, Tom, let me just take a moment to tell
your listeners how they can keep updated on our...
- Yes! Please do. We've got plenty of time. Take your time, and
tell 'em. You have a telephone call-in line that people can
listen to the message.
- Right. It's a regular phone number; it's not an expensive call.
You can call late at night, for example, when it's cheaper to do
so. 731-1100. And that's Chicago, that's 312 area code. 731-1100,
in Chicago. It's a five minute recorded message, and we put our
disclosures on that -- usually as a 5-minute summary of our 1-
hour television show is usually on that recorded message, which
runs 24 hours a day. We change it about 2 or 3 times a week. And
your listeners can keep updated on things that they may not be
able to read anywhere else. They may read it eventually in
Spotlight, but not anywhere else!
- That's right. If you folks want to, you call area code 312-731-
1100. And that's the Committee to Clean Up the Courts hotline.
You can get the information; they change it several times a week;
and you can call. It's 312-731-1100. I'm Tom Valentine. This is
Radio Free America.
All right, we are back, live. My guest is Sherman Skolnick. And
you know, Sherman, I think the important message here -- and it's
one that you have brought to me several times -- is that there
are indeed some good Americans working for the government.
- And they get frustrated, and then they come to people like you.
Remember? They came with the Jesse Jackson thing, that nobody
- And the only newspaper in the country that would run it was
- That's right. That's one that, one of these days, we'll have to
tell everybody all over again, that story.
- Before the time runs out, let me put in another important detail.
- According to what is known, part of the "China White" dope money
was washed through Household International, which is
headquartered in a northwest suburb of Chicago. People may not
know, but Household International is purportedly the successor to
the CIA-linked Nugan-Hand Bank of Australia. As to what the
Nugan-Hand Bank was like, there's a whole book about it called
The Crimes of Patriots, by Jonathon Kwitny(sp?). Household
International is the successor to that, so they come into the
picture naturally, doing what they are apparently doing.
- In other words, they're a CIA proprietary.
- Well, they took over as a CIA proprietary, let's put it that way.
They took over what was left of the Nugan-Hand Bank. And they're
operating in Prospect Heights, which is a northwest suburb [of
The point is, notice what's involved here: the former President,
George Bush; former Illinois Governor, Jim Thompson; two of their
closest cronies who were, themselves, each chief federal
prosecutors here. The one that's covering it up is a Bush crony,
Mark Prosperi, the head of the organized crime/drug enforcement
"task force". The one that was involved as the attorney for the
PIC, the Private Industry Council where the records were all
burned down, is now the chief judge in Joliet. I mean, we've got
judges -- state, federal -- congressmen. At the time they sent
Teezak to jail, there was no inquiry made into his worldwide
money laundry operation that he ran under the name International
Games, Incorporated, Joliet and the Grand Caymans. There was no
investigation of the obstruction of the grand jury by the burning
down of the building! There was no investigation, as known to the
highest level of the government, of the secret bank accounts
known to the Treasury [Department] unit and the banks involved in
Chicago and south of Chicago and west of Chicago that were
involved in "washing" the "China White". And I don't know, I
mean, was the drug, is the drug flow to be allowed to come in,
simply because the CIA wants to keep track of high level members
of the Chinese secret police that are supposedly operating in the
United States and in charge...
- Well I don't understand why the CIA's all uptight about that.
Congress is gonna bring a whole bunch of 'em over from Hong Kong
under the new "crime bill". So why's the CIA care!? [CN --
Valentine has erred here in not differentiating between the
Chinese from the People's Republic of China (PRC) and the Hong
Kong Chinese. There is a difference between secret agents from
PRC and police imported from Hong Kong.]
- What happened, in 1986 Jim Thompson went to China with all of
these same characters -- Teezak and his friends, Edward Masters,
who later became the chief judge, and so on. And it was at that
point that the "China White" situation was apparently nailed
down! And they disguised it as if a major soybean processing
plant was gonna be built in the Joliet area for the mainland
China. I mean, that was the disguise for Thompson at state tax
expense, going to China. But apparently, according to what the
Treasury [Department] unit contends, that was the time that they
really nailed down the importing of "China White" into this
country -- which has been such a great scourge! In fact, there's
a new book coming out, by Peter Maas(sp?)...
- Yep. The [unclear]...
- ..."China White"!
- So that, I mean, they can't say that the top level of the
government doesn't know! I've done my part to confront the top
level of the government. Other substantial citizens have
confronted the top officials of the DEA. And the thing continues,
just as we talk! It hasn't stopped!
- Well, we're gonna keep on talkin' about it. And we've got
corruption in high places. Sherman Skolnick, out of Chicago. That
telephone number to keep up with his work, 312-731-1100.
Sherman, thanks very much. We'll be seeing you again. Excellent
All right folks, stay tuned. We've got another thing breakin' in
Indiana. We're gonna be covering that, shortly. I'll see ya right
after the news.
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