("Quid coniuratio est?")
EUSTACE MULLINS -- OCTOBER 28, 1994
Tom Valentine's guest on Radio Free America (Shortwave, 5.065
MHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on October 28, 1994 was controversial
author Eustace Mullins. Note that views expressed in the
following do not necessarily reflect my own views or those of
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TOM VALENTINE [continues]:
All right, we are back, live. My guest is Eustace Mullins, the
author of a number of books: The New World Order, Secrets of
the Federal Reserve, Murder by Injection, The Rape of
Justice, The Curse of Canaan, and Education for Slavery, a
brand new one.
Now I've not read all of those. I've got three of 'em I have
read. In fact, The Secrets of the Federal Reserve (this'll
bring back memories for ya, Eustace), I picked that up in a used
bookstore in 1978 and read it -- the old, yellow-covered
paperback, you remember?
Oh yes. Um-hmm [affirmative].
- Yeah. And so that goes back quite awhile. You've been around.
Like I said, you published this in '52. And I got an old one, an
old copy, out of a used bookstore, way back then.
All right. John, in Folsom, Louisianna. You're on, with Eustace
- Good afternoon, Tom! Great pleasure to hear Mr. Eustace Mullins.
I have his book, also from a second-hand store.
Is it true that Kuhn and Loeb got their financial start
manufacturing military, army uniforms in Cincinnati, Ohio, for
the Union forces during the Civil War?
- Yeah, that's true. They were actually outfitters. And they made
so much money out of the Civil War that they went into banking.
Because they made gold; in those days you were paid in gold. And
they had so much gold, that they went to New York and became
the banking house of the House of Rothschild in New York City.
- Now an author named "Wexler"(sp?) in Merchant Bankers says that
Baron Rothschild set up the world's most extensive, effective,
efficient, worldwide intelligence system two centuries ago. I
prefer to believe that it's still intact and that it beats the
KGB, or it beats the CIA, even today.
Would you comment on that?
- That's an interesting question!
- Well it is, that's true. In fact, these intelligence services go
back to the Bank of England in 1694. Because bankers found out
that when you deal in large sums of money, you have got to have
accurate information about the guy you're lending it to and what
are his prospects of ever paying you back.
So the intelligence business was not a governmental business; it
was a banking business. It always has been a banking business.
The CIA, you know, in this country, is called "The Company"
because they're very heavily into banking and investments. Bill
Casey was one of the biggest operators on Wall Street -- he was
head of the CIA.
So this... We're talking... When you talk about international
intelligence and James Bond and "007", you're talking about guys
who are really working for the bankers.
- I... Hold on a minute, John. I'll let you go.
But I've heard, Eustace, from a very reliable source (and then
I've heard from un-reliable sources; Gunther Russbacher is an
unreliable source, but he seconded this motion) that "The
Company", the Mossad, MI-5 (or what it is), and the KGB -- all
of them are actually in the employ of the banking, of the banking
- Sure. And they work together! You know, KGB and CIA were
supposedly rivals. But, in fact, Kim Philby, of the British
secret intelligence service, moved to Moscow and became a
lieutenant-general in the KGB!
- Yes. Well he was supposedly one of the most notorious double, or
triple, agents in history. But I think it's all... I'm with you:
it's all a scam. The bankers run all three or four units.
- They certainly do, and they do work together. And that's why,
right now, Bill Clinton is over there in the Middle East at the
mercy of Mossad. (I don't know if he's got a one-way ticket or
not. I'm kind of concerned about...)
- I was concerned about it too, but it doesn't look like it.
- Apparently not.
- John. Anything else?
- ...Philby is more honest and more decent than Alger Hiss: he's
Is it true, or is it a coincidence, that [the] Standard Oil
empire and the influence that they exert have never competed with
- Never. No, they've always worked together.
These people at the top level never compete with each other.
It's like, you know, Gimbels and Macys in New York: they know
what each other's doing, but they don't undercut each other that
much. [CN -- Also, I have noted the decline in the past 2 or so
years of the price of video cameras: they used to all start at
about $1,000; now they all start around $500. I attribute this
decline in price to a decline in demand. The point is that with
true competition the price would have gone down much sooner.]
- Great... Great conversation. Have a great day.
- Thanks, John. Good questions. I'll tell ya, that's right.
It is interesting. Now I have said, though, on this air, that
these people, in the boardroom (I call 'em "the immaculate
'they'") who run everything in the world today -- the heirs of
this legacy that you have written about so well -- will, are just
like other humans: they're going to compete, they're going to
fight one another, even though they have a tight control. And you
would disagree with that.
- Oh no. They have terrible battles among themselves. There's a lot
of rivalry, a lot of back stabbing. But in the final analysis,
it's them against you. They will always hold each other up in
order to keep their control over you and me.
- They like to divide the world up: "You get Indo-China and I'll
take Japan. You get this, and I'll take Arkansas." That kind of
- Oh "Divide and Rule" is the motto of the World Order! How they
Now, it's interesting. The four areas that I've jotted down here,
after looking at the titles of your books, in which the people
who want to control the world -- I don't have this ambition. I
don't know if you do or not. But I really wouldn't want to
control the world if you offered it to me!
- Most normal, healthy people would not.
- O.K. So. The areas that they've gone after, in order of
importance, appear to be (1) money -- federal reserve, control
the money, the issue of the money is very important. Right?
- Yeah, that's why they set up central banks. The first central
bank, in 1694, was the Bank of England. Which... The stock was
taken by the royal family of England and the leading dukes of
England. And they have run that ever since! You've got 300 years
- I heard (and this is one I'll let you comment; you probably
know), that when William and Mary went back to England -- that's
when the Bank of England was set up -- they were financed by a
Holland financier by the name of Suarez(sp?), and he, for his
backing, they gave him the right to establish a central bank. And
he used a guy, a Scotsman named Patterson, as a front.
- Right. William Patterson was a front for the Amsterdam bankers.
In fact, they ditched Patterson within a few years after they set
up the Bank of England. He was only with it about 6 years and
then he was history, he was gone.
- Well that was the purpose of having him in there, was to give it
history so they disguised who really owned it!
- Oh yeah. But it was the Amsterdam bankers. It was Amsterdam
bankers who financed William's invasion of England and taking
over the throne of England by force!
- Eustace Mullins, my guest. 1-800-878-8255, the number.
I'm Tom Valentine, this is Radio Free America.
All right. I'm just havin' a lot of fun here today. I just blew a
one-minute spot by comin' off 5 seconds early. But we will get it
down pat. Someday I'll know how to do this radio business stuff.
Anyway, Eustace Mullins is my guest. [...info on how to get
books...] And Murder by Injection is where I'm going next. It's
a very interesting book. And because of my interest in health, my
favorite of his many good books. [...info on books and
upcoming appearances by Eustace Mullins...]
Now. Eustace. You have money and the federal reserve and these
guys behind it. And then there's schools, with your new book on
the Education for Slavery. Then the law and judges, and I
believe that was in The Rape of Justice.
- Yeah, The Rape of Justice. Each one is a separate, monopoly
study. I became interested in monopolies through the federal
reserve system. And I realized that because they now had the
power to print money, since 1913, they were printing the money
and taking over other areas. So that's why you now have the
medical monopoly, the American Medical Association, the medical
trust. You have the legal monopoly, which controls the courts of
the United States. And when you go into court, you are at their
mercy because they can do whatever they wish. [CN -- See, for
example, Defrauding America by Rodney Stich.]
- Yep. And you've got the school monopoly.
- And the education monopoly! And they found that was the most
important one of all, because, by training the children to accept
these other monopolies [and] never question authority. [CN --
Also, the media monopoly, e.g. The Media Monopoly by Ben
Bagdikian.] Don't forget, the 14th amendment said, "It's illegal
to challenge the national debt!"
[...to be continued...]
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